"Mafia Hukum" — The Legal Mafia — became the unofficial anthem of Indonesia's anti-corruption movement. This episode is an attempt to understand why corruption is so persistent, and what it looks like to fight it from different angles: from inside the Corruption Eradication Commission (KPK), from the civil society watchdogs, from documentary filmmaking, and from the forests where corruption funds the destruction.
Former KPK Deputy Saut Situmorang speaks about what the commission was able to do during its strongest years — and what changed. Filmmaker Dandhy Laksono, Indonesia Corruption Watch's Sely Martini, development anthropologist Scott Guggenheim, and musician Edward Andrews round out one of the series' most detailed episodes.
Guests
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Deputy Commissioner of KPK (2015–2019)
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Documentary filmmaker
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Development anthropologist
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Indonesia Corruption Watch
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Musician and teacher
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Further reading
Two transcripts for this episode. The main episode plus a bonus interview with Scott Guggenheim.